Wednesday, January 05, 2005

Today's Clip-and-Yupping

Note: In a debate on Crooked Timber about gender and blogging, someone complained that far too many blogs are just people who clip from other blogs and say "yup". I pointed out in a comment of my own, that some of us small-readership blogs, on the edge of the blogosphere, are reaching readers who are not themselves very plugged-in to blog-news-frenzy action. Bloggers who clip-and-yup are serving up stuff to those readers that they may otherwise never see. Not everyone uses news aggregators, or has high-speed access, or knows who Atrios and Digby are.

Anyway, I don't have much interesting myself to say right now, so here are my clip-and-yups for the day:

Gonzales, Torture

  • Nothing New Under The Sun's daily roundup on Legal Torture
  • Glenn On TortureHere's a remarkable piece of reasoning:
    I think the effort to turn this into an anti-Bush political issue is a serious mistake, and the most likely outcome will be, in essence, the ratification of torture (with today's hype becoming tomorrow's reality) and a political defeat for the Democrats. And the highly politicized way in which the issue is raised is likely to ensure that there's no useful discussion of exactly how, in terms of incarceration, etc., we should treat potentially very dangerous people who do not fall readily within the laws of war.
    Run that by me again. The point is not "an anti-Bush political issue." It's about whether the United States condones torture of prisoners (many of whom have turned out to be innocent) in its care. Since president Bush shifted U.S. policy to one which allows what any sane person would call torture, any criticism of the policy, by its very nature, has to be "anti-Bush." And when the president responds to his egregious error - which has undermined the war - by rewarding those who helped him make it, like Gonzales and Bybee, are we all supposed to roll over? Is all legitimate criticism of the administration now reducible to this kind of inane partisanship? Glenn's deeper point is that if you ask for torture to be stopped, the majority of Americans will respond by saying: ramp it up. But that amounts to complete capitulation to something no civilized person should tolerate, and no grown-up military officer would approve. Glenn cannot pretend to be anti-torture, while eschewing any serious attempts to stop it through the political process.If you won't stand up to the Bush administration on torture, is there anything you won't acquiesce to? And it's not "hype." Read the reports.
    [Andrew Sullivan]
  • Points of contention
    Alberto Gonzales has said that the controversial Justice Department memo from 2002 which laid out presidential authority to allow torture of terrorism suspects was in response to "questions." Well, it turns out, those questions were his. The New York Times reports: "Until now, administration officials have been unwilling to provide details about the role Mr. Gonzales had in the production of the memorandum by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel. Mr. Gonzales has spoken of the memorandum as a response to questions, without saying that most of the questions were his." [salon]
  • As retired military officers and...
    As retired military officers and religious leaders express concerns over the nomination of Alberto Gonzalez as attorney general, an ad opposing his nomination is headlined, "You may not know Alberto Gonzalez, but we're sure you'll recognize his work." Plus: 'Does the Right Remember Abu Ghraib?' [Cursor.org]
  • Digby says:I have long defended the Democrats from charges that they are "spineless" and "cowardly." I think that character attacks on our own side mainly helps the Borg convince people that we aren't worth voting for. But, I have no compunction about calling out our representatives when they are making a mistake. Capitulating on Gonzales is not only wrong it is entirely counterproductive to our cause.

    If we are going to be fighting about "values" and "morals" over the next couple of election cycles (as the right seems determined to do) we need to throw down the gauntlet right here, right now. Torture is immoral and even the most craven right wing racist knows that he's playing with fire to endorse it publicly. They don't want to have this argument because they know they are wrong.

    Torture is not an American value and it's certainly not a religious value. If they are determined to elevate the architect of Bush's illegal and immoral torture and detention schemes to the highest law enforcement office in the land then they are begging for a fight. It's a fight we should be more than willing to wage because there is absolutely no doubt who has the moral high ground.

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2 Comments:

At 3:44 PM, Blogger R J Keefe said...

The idea of fringe blogging that Biscuit has set out here is worth developing. I regard my own Daily Blague as serving something like this function (among others, I hope). I don't think that many of the friends who have signed up for daily notifications know what a newsreader is. There is something distinctly unfriendly about "RSS feeds." Sounds like one of those monsters from The Matrix.
I used to wonder how everybody does so much blogging while holding down jobs. It took a while for the light-bulb to go on: everybody's blogging from the job. Duh.

 
At 4:29 PM, Blogger AmyN said...

Yes, everyone's blogging on-the-job. In fact, we should start a blogging-general-strike, in which everyone spends some amount of time every day blogging instead of working, to protest the adminstration. Or something.

I only work part-time though, so sometimes I'm blogging when I'm supposed to be doing work (I bill my hours though, so that just screws me...) but most of the time I'm blogging while the biscuit kid chaoticizes the office.

As for "RSS feeds" seeming unfriendly, you probably never thought html, url, http, and blog would seem normal to you someday. Just think of feeds as the Associated Press, only instead of the press, it's just, whoever. I sort of like the 'feed' term -- the result is something very much like eating -- gorging, rather -- on information.

 

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